tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3691535.post317940048515217070..comments2023-10-19T21:43:02.001+08:00Comments on Dunner's: Naomi Wolf: Veiled SexualityJDsghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04735390644321868222noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3691535.post-1413620181072218702010-08-08T17:10:37.109+08:002010-08-08T17:10:37.109+08:00On the subject of non-Muslim hijabis, here are som...On the subject of non-Muslim hijabis, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/35343879@N02/4283159361/" rel="nofollow">here are some Greek folk costumes I found on Flickr</a>. The resemblance to Muslim dress is uncanny...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3691535.post-68500804720434697262008-10-01T19:59:00.000+08:002008-10-01T19:59:00.000+08:00...dirty dancing can come in handy when there are ...<I>...dirty dancing can come in handy when there are other wives to compete with for the approval of a husband...</I><BR/><BR/>Who says that the videos in question were for a polygamous marriage? Polygamy among Muslims is rare. In this country, where polygamy is legal, the total number of polygamous marriages is less than 2%; in six years of living here, I've met two men who had two wives each. Hardly the need for "competition" between wives.<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>...who has the legal right to starve you to death if you fail in any way.</I><BR/><BR/>Not true. <BR/><BR/><BR/><I>So hetero sexual marriage is the only choice, eh?</I><BR/><BR/>It is in Islam. <BR/><BR/><BR/><I>And Muslim women who dare to have sex on their own terms will continue to wind up dead.</I><BR/><BR/>A so-called Muslim woman who has "sex on her own terms" isn't following Islam to begin with. <I>We</I> all know this. You don't. She won't necessarily "wind up dead"; that's your assumption. (And a piss-poor one at that.)JDsghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735390644321868222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3691535.post-24238992951246067802008-10-01T07:32:00.000+08:002008-10-01T07:32:00.000+08:00“The bridal videos that I was shown, with the sens...“The bridal videos that I was shown, with the sensuous dancing that the bride learns as part of what makes her a wonderful wife, and which she proudly displays for her bridegroom,……”<BR/><BR/>Uh yeah Naomi – dirty dancing can come in handy when there are other wives to compete with for the approval of a husband who has the legal right to starve you to death if you fail in any way.<BR/><BR/>“It is not that Islam suppresses sexuality” she asserts, “but that it embodies a strongly developed sense of its appropriate channelling-toward marriage, the bonds that sustain family life, and the attachment that secures a home.”<BR/><BR/>So hetero sexual marriage is the only choice, eh? <BR/><BR/>And Muslim women who dare to have sex on their own terms will continue to wind up dead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3691535.post-54424903811805144832008-09-24T21:15:00.000+08:002008-09-24T21:15:00.000+08:00The Notebooks of Lazarus Long are actually two sec...<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/or/sociologyshop/lazlong.html" REL="nofollow">The Notebooks of Lazarus Long</A> are actually two sections within the 1973 SF novel, <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Time-Enough-Love-Robert-Heinlein/dp/0441810764/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1222261870&sr=8-1" REL="nofollow">Time Enough for Love</A>, by Robert Heinlein. Lazarus Long is a recurring character of Heinlein's, and is "Methuselah." The notebooks are actually a large collection of aphorisms on a wide variety of topic, occasionally blasphemous and often witty. Check them out; I'm sure you'll be amused. :)JDsghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735390644321868222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3691535.post-46008715308553814732008-09-24T20:20:00.000+08:002008-09-24T20:20:00.000+08:00In other words, that "feminists" are really "mascu...<I>In other words, that "feminists" are really "masculinists?"</I><BR/><BR/>Personally, I prefer the word "androgynists". I've never even heard of "The Notebooks of Lazarus Long" by the way...<BR/><BR/><I>I associate the hijab more with piety.</I><BR/><BR/>That too - maybe my last paragraph should have been more on the lines of "why do only <I>religious</I> women cover?", without mentioning Islam specifically...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3691535.post-58042621319974211972008-09-24T18:56:00.000+08:002008-09-24T18:56:00.000+08:00Are you sure that the feminist movement in the Wes...<I>Are you sure that the feminist movement in the West isn't really about liberating women from the perceived oppression of femininity in all its forms?</I><BR/><BR/>In other words, that "feminists" are really "masculinists?" Yeah, I've been thinking that since at least the 80s. Are you familiar with "The Notebooks of Lazarus Long," by Robert Heinlein?<BR/><BR/>"Whenever women have insisted on absolute equality with men, they have invariably wound up on the dirty end of the stick. What they are and what they can do makes them superior to men, and their proper tactic is to demand special privileges, all the traffic will bear. They should never settle merely for equality. For women, 'equality' is a disaster."<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>(I often tend to think of femininity as being epitomized by the hijabi.)</I><BR/><BR/>I associate the hijab more with piety. Women who wear hijab do look more feminine, IMO, but I think most women who cover would tell you (and certainly my wife would say) that they wear a hijab or tudung for the sake of Allah (swt) and not to look more feminine than a woman who doesn't cover.<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>By the way, what you say to someone who said "If hijab isn't oppressive, why don't you see non-Muslim hijabis?"</I><BR/><BR/>I'd say, "You do." I've heard of several cases of Christian women who wear hijab (following one of Paul's instructions; I don't recall what letter and verse, off-hand). Likewise, orthodox Jewish women cover in one way or another; if not through scarves, then through the wearing of special wigs. When I was a child, my mom used to wear a scarf all the time when she went to Mass. And then there are nuns... All sorts of non-Muslim hijabis out there.<BR/><BR/>And then there's the opposite tact: Buddhist nuns also recognize the problem of hair for a pious life, but instead of covering they shave their heads bald.JDsghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735390644321868222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3691535.post-11153322444707279552008-09-24T14:36:00.000+08:002008-09-24T14:36:00.000+08:00Are you sure that the feminist movement in the Wes...Are you sure that the feminist movement in the West isn't really about liberating women from the perceived oppression of femininity in all its forms?<BR/><BR/>(I often tend to think of femininity as being epitomized by the hijabi.)<BR/><BR/>By the way, what you say to someone who said "If hijab isn't oppressive, why don't you see non-Muslim hijabis?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3691535.post-45955152925633284822008-09-24T04:00:00.000+08:002008-09-24T04:00:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com